In an interview with Fortune, Melinda French Gates (the article calls her “French Gates”) hinted at her divorce from Gates and talked about the projects she’s working on to protect women. This reminded many people of a recent interview in which she talked about what Bill had been doing and criticized him for his ties to the notorious child molester Jeffrey Epstein.

Melinda got married to Bill Gates in 1994, and they have three kids together: Jennifer, 25, Rory, 23, and Phoebe, 19. Bill and Melinda got a divorce in 2021, but for now at least, they are still running the Bill And Melinda Gates Foundation together.

She told Fortune that the divorce was “unbelievably painful,” but she kept working with him at the foundation, saying, “I kept working with the person I was moving away from, and I need to show up every day and be my best self.”

It’s a little surprising that she kept working at that foundation with him after what she said about Gate’s friendship with Epstein in a recent interview:

“It was a lot of things.” But the fact that he had met with Jeffrey Epstein was not something I liked. I told him that very clearly.”

She also said that she had only met Epstein “one time,” because she was curious about who he was. She continued by saying, “And I regretted it as soon as I walked in the door.”

Why did it make her feel bad? Because Epstein was, in her view, “evil personified.” “He was terrible,” she said. He was the essence of evil. After that, I kept having bad dreams about it. So it breaks my heart to think about these young women.”

And because of that, Bill’s affair, and other problems that Melinda wouldn’t talk about, they couldn’t stay together. In her own words:

“It didn’t happen all at once or in a single event. There was just enough of it for me to realize that it wasn’t healthy and that I couldn’t trust what we had.”

But Melinda is not on our side, even though she was sickened by Epstein and left her husband in part because of their friendship. In the Fortune interview, he also talked about abortion and the recent Dobbs decision by the Supreme Court. He said, “It would be terrible in any country. But for it to have been on the books for that long in the country with the highest income in the world and then be rolled back is a huge setback for gender equality.

She also started a smart group called Pivotal Ventures, which is a venture capital fund. She said it was about how to help women and people of color get ahead faster in the U.S. For me, it comes down to looking at four key areas: technology, money, the media, and politics. If you give more people a stake in these four industries, you will change everything.”

Melinda Gates talked about woke capital and how much she loves abortion. She said that venture capital can’t solve the problem and that more women need to run for office instead. In her words:

“I try to find the cause. What’s the big problem? The big problem is that our country doesn’t have enough women in politics. We’re not equal between men and women, and we’re not even close. So, when I look at the Supreme Court bench, I think about how we got there and who put them there. They got there because the Senate was mostly made up of men.”

“We need to give more money to female politicians at all levels and figure out what’s stopping them from getting there. You won’t have a fair representation of society on the Supreme Court until women are in all positions of power. Because if you look at how Americans really feel about Roe v. Wade, no matter which side of the aisle they are on, what was done doesn’t reflect what people think.”

So she is as much of a leftist as her husband because she is aware. But at least she brought up the fact that he knew Epstein.